‘Lunch Agenda’ Podcast Series: Setting and Expanding the Table for All

In the District of Columbia, there are many communities that have been disenfranchised by the food system and continue to have limited access to affordable, culturally-appropriate, healthy food. But the Foundation’s Food Security Initiative aims to be part of the solution to this inequitable food system by investing to fill critical system gaps and, in collaboration with many partners, creating new affordable food options. With just a few years under our belt as an official Foundation initiative, we’re still fairly new to this space, but we’re getting the word out about our work and mission and joining larger food-related conversations. And just a few weeks ago, we were thrilled to partner with Kiko Bourne, host of the “Lunch Agenda” podcast on Full Service Radio, to produce a D.C.-focused podcast series, “Investing in Food.”

The Food Security Initiative team first met Kiko in June 2018 at a convening we co-hosted with the Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments’ Local Food Distribution Working Group. (You can read all about it here — the event featured a presentation from Dennis Derryck of the Corbin Hill Food Project, who participated in the last episode of the podcast series.) Based on our discussion of impact investing at this convening and another convening in the fall (the inaugural Chesapeake Food Summit), Kiko presented us with the opportunity to further explore this topic with her in a podcast series, and we were excited to say yes. Since its launch in January 2018, Kiko’s “Lunch Agenda” podcast has explored many topics that align with the Foundation’s mission — including regional food system development, racial equity in the food system, building access to good food in D.C., and sustainable and organic food products. Additionally, several of our partners have been on the show, including Dalila Boclin (from Community Foodworks), Morgan Maloney (formerly with Arcadia Center for Sustainable Food & Agriculture and a consultant who helped us develop the Food Learning Locator) and Philip Sambol (from Oasis Community Partners). We saw co-sponsoring this series as a multifaceted opportunity to spotlight different types of financing and investment in D.C.’s food system and to also bring diverse voices around the table to talk about what’s working, what challenges remain, and what models of equity-focused food solutions are working in other regions. Plus, our Communications team has been eager to explore the world of podcasts — so we were happy to take the first step with them.

We asked Kiko to share her reflections from the series. Here’s what she had to say.


Katie Jones
Director, Food Security Initiative

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Who is investing in mission-oriented food ventures? Who is receiving these investments — and more important, who isn’t — and why? If we accept that the answers to these questions are not doing enough to change structures of inequality and marginalization in our food system, how are we going to break the pattern?

I think the strength of the “Investing in Food” podcast series derived from the breadth of guests who joined us throughout the four episodes. They offered depth and conversational dynamics that wouldn’t have been possible without the convening power of the Bainum Family Foundation. Together, the guests shared a variety of approaches — ranging from Radha Muthiah of the Capital Area Food Bank, who brought a macro perspective of best practices in international partnerships, to Chris Bradshaw of Dreaming Out Loud, who specializes in the micro-communities of D.C., where he attended college and has now created countless job opportunities in food. I particularly appreciated the back and forth between Dennis Derryck and Olivia Rebanal from Capital Impact Partners in the final episode. Olivia acknowledged her power as a funder, while noting that, as a Filipina woman, she is personally able to feel outside of the very power structures that Dennis challenges in our financial system, which led him to join other organizations forging alternate economies.

There were a few quotes from the series that stuck out to me and demonstrated key themes:

Tom McDougall on his struggles to secure investment for 4P Foods:

“It costs, on average in America, about $38,000 to launch a successful startup. The average white family’s net worth is $117,000 and the average black family’s is $11,000. So, if the message to underserved entrepreneurs is ‘just go call your rich uncle,’ what happens if you can’t even make that call? The system is rigged to protect the wealth of those who already have it.”

Pamela Hess on Arcadia’s work to connect all D.C. residents to fresh, healthy food:

“We [society broadly] cannot be bothered to fix this disconnect between people’s need and desire to serve healthy food to their families, and the fact that they cannot command the capitalist structures to serve them directly. So, Arcadia is a bridge between what everybody else in D.C. gets to have and what folks in the neighborhoods we’re serving [with Mobile Markets] get to have. We are the bridge proving that people want this food and [are] asking [for] someone to come in with a solution that can work for everyone.”

Radha Muthiah on emerging hope for bolder investment in domestic food access solutions:

“We’ve spoken to social impact entrepreneurs who are eyeing this space, saying there may be something interesting here. There has been more impact investment going to address food security in other parts of the world, and increasingly funders are now paying closer attention to their backyards.”

Miss the series or want to listen to it again? Check out the links to each episode below.

Podcast Episode 1: Inside the Mind of the Investor

Podcast Episode 2: Filling the Gaps with Chris Bradshaw and Tom McDougall

Podcast Episode 3: From ‘Getting the Food They Need’ to ‘Buying the Food They Want’

Podcast Episode 4: Reaching for Food Sovereignty